Tuesday 5 July 2016

Let's Compare Decks! - A discussion on the two different damage decks for the X-Wing Miniatures game

Question: when was the last time you saw someone using the original core set damage deck? I’d hazard a guess that it was just before the new core set came out, right?

Why? Because newer is better? Because of the large amount of people that claim it’s better?

Because you’ve sat down with both damage decks and critically gone through them with reference to your list and worked out that the new deck is better? Nah, me neither… until very recently.


My new list

I’ve gone Defender mad and I’m about to run this list:

2 x Deltas – TIE/x7 / Stealth Device
Vessary – TIE/x7 / Stealth Device / Juke

I’d heard someone say something about the old damage deck being better for generic pilots so I thought I’d have a look… now I’m going to have to dig it out and see if I still actually own all the cards!


Both full decks side by side

Note: from now on, I’ll refer to the deck that you get in the original core set as the “old deck” and the deck that comes in the TFA core set as the “new deck”

The first thing to look at when comparing new and old decks is the cards that have no change to them like Direct Hit! and the cards that only have slight changes in the wording of the cards, for example, Thurst Control Fire which has had a one word alteration to clarify some timing issues.

Old deck - Direct Hit!: (Ship) This card counts as 2 damage against your hull.
New deck - Direct Hit!: (Ship) This card counts as 2 damage against your hull.

Old deck - Thrust Control Fire: (Ship) Immediately receive 1 stress token. Then flip this card facedown.
New deck - Thrust Control Fire: (Ship) Receive 1 stress token. Then flip this card facedown.

As the slight change is only going to affect anything in a very small amount of cases, for the purpose of this, article, I will count them as being the same thing.

So then, these cards have stayed the same:

Console Fire

Damaged Engine

Direct Hit!

Thrust Control Fire

Damaged Cockpit

Stunned Pilot


So 6 out of the full 14 different cards in the deck are (near enough) exactly the same. This is a good start.



Clearing the crits with dice

There seems to be a trend in the new damage deck for making crits easier to cancel.
Damaged Sensor Array and Structural Damage can both be cancelled by rolling an attack dice, if you roll a hit, the crits are cancelled. The difference comes when that dice roll comes up as a crit. If you are playing with the old deck, the crit stays, if you are playing with the new deck, flip that crit down!

Essentially that means if you are playing with the new deck, you have a 50% chance of clearing the crit, however if you are playing with the old deck, you only have a 37.5% chance of clearing the crit.

This is just a fact of the decks and doesn’t really come down to what list you are playing.

Score one for the new deck!

Damaged Sensor Array

Structural Damage




Minors into Majors (shit got real!)

Two cards have been “upgraded” from minor effects in the old deck to major effects in the new deck. These are Minor Explosion and Minor Hull Breach (in the old deck) which changed to Major Explosion and Major Hull Breach (in the new deck). Let’s have a look at the difference.

Minor Explosion / Major Explosion


Straight up, this is a score for the old deck, obviously you would prefer to take a normal damage, over another crit, right?
Pretty much, but if you are playing certain lists, this makes no difference at all. A-wings, Z95s, Attack Shuttles, M3-As, TIE Adv. Prototypes, Phantoms and E-wings have 2 hull so if you take a crit and it comes up Minor/Major Explosion, it doesn’t matter if the subsequent damage is a hit or a crit, you roll a red dice and if it comes up a hit, dat ship go boom! This is an important consideration if you are playing a list where ALL your ships only have two hull, for example a Z swarm or an A-wing swarm.

Minor Hull Breach / Major Hull Breach


Well… these are different, maybe they deserved a more different name? Who knows, anyway, you can’t really compare them. This really IS list dependent.
If you are running an A-wing swarm, you really don’t care about Major Hull Breach because the next hit you get is going to kill you anyway, whether it’s a crit or not HOWEVER these swarm type lists tend to K-turn a lot so you don’t really want Minor Hull Breach.
If you are running Defenders, you can pretty much go whole games without ever doing a red maneuver (love those white K-turns) so Minor Hull Breach is a “good” crit for this ship BUT if you’ve still got three hull left, get Major Hull Breach then the next damage turns out to be a Direct Hit! that is bad times.

Two different lists, two different preferences.



Cards that have been replaced

Some cards from the old deck have been completely replaced by new, different cards in the new deck.

Munitions Failure is replaced by Loose Stabilizer
Injured Pilot is replaced by Shaken Pilot

Well, you can kind of see the reason for these. Imagine PTL Soontir getting Injured Pilot! No more PTL AND no more stress/focus shenanigans… that’s a well dead Soontir.
Now imagine a Delta Defender getting Injured Pilot… no change whatsoever.

So it’s a balance thing, the new damage deck was brought in to level the playing field, in that previous example, using the new deck instead would have got both ships a Shaken Pilot crit, more rough for the Defender and less rough for Soontir.

You could extrapolate similar findings with the Munitions Failure / Loose Stabilizer crit if you looked at a HWK with TLT and a base X-wing. With Munitions Failure, your HWK would be totally useless for the rest of the game but the X-wing would be unchanged, whereas with Loose stabilizer, both ships are equally inconvenienced.

I think it’s worth stating that this part of the new deck benefits the game, as a whole, massively. (who wants to win against a nerfed Soontir, anyway!) BUT it doesn’t mean that if you are working on a list by list basis, the new deck is unquestionably better. Do some thinking!



Other honorable mentions

So there are two other crits which deserve a mention.

Blinded Pilot

Blinded pilot went through a change, whereby in the old deck, you had to wait for the opportunity to attack another ship (ie. have another ship in range and in arc and then declare that ship as the target of your blinded attack) before the crit would clear. In the new deck, the player just has to wait for the next time it would be that ship’s turn to attack, then the crit clears.

The old deck is fine if you are a turret but what if you are an arc dodger, you effectively have to come around for another pass JUST to clear the crit. Bad times!



Weapon Malfunction and Weapons Failure

This change was due to ships carrying cannons or turrets not being affected by Weapons Malfunction as it only nerfs your PRIMARY weapon value. (Dash’s favourite crit). Weapons failure effects all ships equally.

So, if you have a squad that uses just secondary weapon turrets, you would chose the old deck, right? Nope, because what happens if you get the Munitions Failure crit? One of your scary 3 dice TLT Y-wings becomes a 2 dice ship that only gets to fire once AND has to have his target in arc! MEGA NERF!


That was interesting... Now stop rambling and tell me which deck to use!

So that’s all the crits discussed, let’s look at a few lists and see what which would be the best for that list.

I have analyzed the effectiveness of each damage deck over three lists. I’ve tried to use lists that I have a fair amount of experience playing with or playing against. To that end, I’ll look at my old Imperial list with Vader, Omega Leader and Redline, my new Defender list with Vessary and two Deltas and finally the 5 A-wing crack swarm that Joel has been playing for a while (and consequently, I have played against a lot!)

As some things will benefit or handicap a list more than other, I have tried to set up a scoring system ranging from -3 (Soontir getting an Injured Pilot crit. ie. useless Soontir) to +3 (Delta Defender getting an Injured Pilot crit. ie. no change whatsoever) It’s obviously VERY subjective so only here as a general guideline and to help you make your own decisions.

Also, I’m going to completely disregard Console Fire, Damaged Engine, Direct Hit!, Thrust Control Fire, Damaged Cockpit and Stunned Pilot as they are exactly the same in the old and new decks (as stated before).


A-wing crack swarm

Joel's A-wing crack swarm


5 x Green Squadron Pilot – A-wing test pilot / Chardan / Adaptibility / Autothrusters / Crackshot

So let’s go down the list.

Damaged Sensor Array and Structural Damage – the new deck wins on both of these because of it’s slightly easier method of clearing these crits. As there is only a 12.5% difference I’ve only awarded the new deck +1 for each crit and the old deck -1 for each.

Old deck: - 2 points
New deck: + 2 points

Minor/Major Explosion – it matters not! Having only 2 hit points means that whether that next incoming damage is a hit or a crit, that ship = dead! No points for either deck here then.

Old deck: - 2 points
New deck: + 2 points

Minor/Major Hull Breach – Major Hull Breach is negated (once again) by the 2 hull points. Who cares if the next hit is a crit or not when it will kill you regardless. I shall award the new deck + 3 for that!
Minor Hull Breach however, will inconvenience this list a fair bit. The swarm likes to K-turn a fair bit in my experience and having to roll an attack dice every time you do that and possibly blow the ship up is not so good! Therefore, I will award the old deck a – 2

Old deck: - 4 points
New deck: + 5 points

Munitions Failure and Loose Stabilizer – Munitions failure is a dream crit for these A-wings. They have nothing to discard. + 3 for the old deck there!
Loose Stabilizer is a bit of an arse for the A-wings though, they really rely on their agility to get out of tight situations. - 2 for the new deck.

Old deck: - 1 point
New deck: + 3 points

Weapon Malfunction and Weapons Failure – No difference here as the A-wings only use their primary weapons. No points!

Old deck: - 1 point
New deck: + 3 points

Blinded Pilot – the new deck is always going to get my vote on this, often it doesn’t make too much difference though, especially to a swarm so I give the old deck – 1 and the new deck + 1.

Old deck: - 2 points
New deck: + 4 points

Injured Pilot and Shaken Pilot – Injured Pilot will pretty much do nothing to the A-Wings as they don’t have an in-built pilot ability, Adaptibility is set at the beginning of the game and they will almost always have spent their Crackshot by the time they get down to hull. + 2 points (not the full + 3 in case they haven’t spent Crackshot)
Shaken Pilot could cause a bit of an annoyance, depending on the situation. Not being able to do a straight maneuver for the one turn where you expect to get a block can be frustrating. - 1

Old deck: 0 points
New deck: 3 points

So the new deck comes out on top for this list. Let’s see about those Defenders!



Defenders of The Universe

Be afraid! Here come the Defenders of the Universe!


Vessary – TIE/x7 / Stealth Device / Juke
2 x Delta Squadron Pilots – TIE/x7 / Stealth Device

Damaged Sensor Array and Structural Damage – same as with all lists, the new deck wins this (but not by much).

Old deck: - 2 points
New deck: + 2 points

Minor/Major Explosion – Well, getting a Major Explosion, then rolling a hit and pulling a Direct Hit! is the worst thing in the world on a three hull ship (well, maybe not, but still…) The old deck definitely wins this one! Old deck + 2, new deck – 2.

Old deck: 0 points
New deck: 0 points

Minor/Major Hull Breach – Any mechanic that will net you extra crits (such as Major Hull Breach) is bad. Not the worst thing because the Defenders only have 3 hull so as long as you don’t get this crit on the very first point of hull damage, it isn’t worth anything. Not terrible but could be bad! - 1 for the new deck.
The maneuvers I tend to use on my /x7 Defenders are straights (all greens), 3 turns and banks (all whites) and that lovely, white 4 K-turn. Losing the ability to safely do any red maneuvers because of Minor Hull Breach… not much of a bother at all! + 2 to the old deck!

Old deck: + 2
New deck: - 1

Munitions Failure and Loose StabilizerMunitions Failure, I wish all (my) crits were like this! Nothing to discard so no change here. The full + 3 points for the old deck!
Loose Stabilizer? I spent 3 extra points getting my agility to 4 and now it’s gone all the way down to 2??? Not what I’d want. - 2 for the new deck.

Old deck: + 5
New deck: - 3

Weapon Malfunction and Weapons Failure – And again, no difference here, us modern Defenders don’t use any secondary weapons! Nil points for either side!

Old deck: + 5
New deck: -3

Blinded Pilot –bad times for the old deck here. Not being able to clear this crit by running away, then coming back again would be very annoying! Old deck – 1, new deck + 1.

Old deck: + 4
New deck: - 2

Injured Pilot and Shaken Pilot – Well, this is actually a pretty difficult one. Injured Pilot won’t have any effect on my Deltas but on Vessary it will strip his ability AND Juke. Bad times. That said, it does only have the potential to affect a third of my list. Old deck gets a – 1.
Shaken pilot is also awkward to analyse for this list. I don’t often do straight maneuvers when in the thick of a dogfight (it’s worth mentioning that the 4-K is NOT treated as a straight) I’m usually either turning or K-ing. It could still be annoying though. I think the new deck gets a – 1 for this as well.

Old deck: + 3
New deck: - 3

So by a rather large margin of 6 points the old deck wins!


Lots ‘O’ Locks

Lots 'O' Locks


The previous two have been fairly easy to analyse because they comprise the same ships. This one is going to be awkward but let’s see how we go...

Vader – VI / Engine / Title / ATC
Omega Leader – Juke / Comms Relay
Redline – Plasmas / Clusters / FCS / Guidance Chips / Extra Munitions



Damaged Sensor Array and Structural Damage – same as with all lists, the new deck wins this again.

Old deck: - 2 points
New deck: + 2 points

Minor/Major Explosion – And again, getting a Major Explosion, then rolling a hit and pulling a Direct Hit! = bad! The old deck definitely wins this one! Old deck + 2, new deck – 2.

Old deck: 0 points
New deck: 0 points

Minor/Major Hull Breach – As with the last list, more crits is bad, but Vader and Omega Leader only having three hull each makes this not so bad. Redline, however, could end up with 6 crits from the new deck!!! Fairly bad, - 2 for the new deck.
Minor Hull Breach however, will also have a fair bit of an impact on all the ships in this list. I K-turn with all these ships, Redline included! Who needs actions when you’ve got target locks AND guidance chips? More badness – 2 for the old deck.

Old deck: - 2 points
New deck: - 2 points

Munitions Failure and Loose Stabilizer – Munitions Failure on Redline is a bit rubbish as you have to discard a missile or torp BUT it’s not as bad as something like Dash losing his HLC. It doesn’t have any effect on Vader or Omega Leader, so that’s good. - 1 for the old deck.
Loose Stabilizer is a bit more of a kicker for any of these ships, Omega and Vader because they rely on those greens to keep them alive and going down to no green dice on Redline just feels wrong! - 2 for the new deck.

Old deck: - 3 points
New deck: - 4 points

Weapon Malfunction and Weapons Failure – Well, the only difference is that if you are using the old deck and Redline gets this crit, his torp and missile shots aren’t nerfed. Not much change, I know but it still edges the old damage deck in front for this one. - 2 for the old and – 3 for the new.

Old deck: - 5 points
New deck: - 7 points

Blinded PilotBad times for the old deck here. These ships are arc dodgers (well, two of them, anyway) and won’t have shots every turn. This makes the old damage deck worse for this list than most. Old deck – 2, new deck + 1.

Old deck: - 7 points
New deck: - 6 points

Injured Pilot and Shaken Pilot – Injured Pilot is awful for this list! Redline’s tactics hinge on getting 2 target locks, Vader is great with his 2 actions and Omega Leader without Juke and her ability is just a high PS TIE F/O. Very bad times! - 3 for the old deck!
Shaken pilot could be bad but then again, it’s only one turn and then it gets flipped. Not great but not terrible. - 1 for the new deck.

Old deck: - 10
New deck: - 7

The new deck, once again comes out on top here but the way my scoring has turned out, it really shows how much crits in general hurt named pilots more than generics.



So those are my findings, they are obviously subjective but the point I’m trying to get across is that you should try and do a bit of critical analysis on which deck is best for your list.

I’m going to dig out my old deck and give it a try on my Defenders of the Universe list!



Redd XIII signing off.



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